Friday, December 09, 2005

Questions about the Miami Shooting

There are no independent witnesses who can verify that the passenger who was shot in Miami said he had a bomb. In fact, almost everyone who noticed the guy said he was acting odd, but not dangerous. His wife seemed to be trying to keep him calm. No doubt it is a tough job being an air marshal, but I am convinced that the air marshals and Homeland Security botched this one. Let's wait to see the facts.

Day 1549!

7 comments:

dasichist said...

While I agree that Air Marshals have a tough job...I'm not sure they "botched" this. If this person was acting weird even before the flight, I'm sure he was targeted for further surveliance on the flight by the two marshals. Regardless of having a bomb or not, this person represented a threat to the flight. We can't expect Marshals to be trained psychiatrists making on the fly judgements about people's mental conditions when the flight is at risk.

Rob said...

Sure, but presumably he passed through security in Ecuador, he went through Customs in the U.S., and was on a final connecting flight to Orlando. He is an American citizen who worked at Home Depot, traveling with his wife.

If he was under surveilance from before the flight (which is a good possibility) they would have at least known about his two security checks. Don't you think it is odd that not one independent witness said they heard him say "bomb" or indicated that they thought he was a threat? These people were presumably not "trained psychiatrists" either, but they came to a very different conclusion than the air marshals did. Marshals don't have to be trained psychiatrists but if they are going to shoot American citizens in airports it would be comforting to know that they at least had some indication about the backgrounds and profiles of who they are shooting. This was a botched case.

matar-alloo said...

It's possible that the passengers couldn't hear the dude say "bomb" because they weren't close enough to hear him say it or he said it at low volume...poor guy though. He didn't have to die...they could've shot him with a bean bag bullet or a tazer, or in the arm/leg with a real bullet. Why couldn't the wife stop all this from happening?

Rob said...

I'm sure it happened really fast and she was probably as stunned as others. Current training for air marshals is to shoot to take threats down, not to incapacitate.

You are right that they may not have heard him, but I just don't believe it.

Justin's D! said...

SHOOT HIM IN THE BEAN BAG?!!! Are you crazy!!! I would rather die than get shot in the bean bag!!!

Seriously, who knows what really happened down there. Air marshals are there for our protection. We have to believe that they are doing things that they believe are right and in the best interest for everyone. It's a difficult job and when they make a mistake, it could prove to be fatal. Doctors, paramedics, firemen, policemen all make mistakes but again their mistakes can be much more critical than ours as they can determine someone living or dying. Still, they are there for us and we have to trust that they are doing the best for us. If it was a mistake, it is sad but I don't think the marshal killed the man because he took the situation lightly and he just wanted the man to shut up. He must have truly thought the guy was a threat and had to make a decision right there.

Rob said...

I don't think the guy was targeted for execution by air marshals, but the system should work a little better. If you have someone who has cleared through two and maybe three security checks and runs off a plane because he is nervous, he should not get shot.

matar-alloo said...

Mr. Bush would say, "That's correct Rob. Instead of being shot, he should've been tortured and interrogated."